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	<title>Comments on: SBS1 under Linux and Mac OS X</title>
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		<title>By: Piotr</title>
		<link>http://piopawlu.net/2008/04/15/sbs1-under-linux-and-mac-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Piotr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 22:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I would like to get a well coded Mac or Linux version of &#039;Basestation&#039; I do understand Kinetic and Airnav that they do not provide such software. The reason is very simple.. it&#039;s all about the money and no apparent need for Mac or Linux version. Most of aviation enthusiasts use Windows anyway, so why bother? The only solution would be to use portable graphics libraries like Qt, SDL or OpenGL.

About the scanner thing, it&#039;s not that simple and there is no way you could feed this data directly into the mic-in of your computer.  Just check the ModeS specification and your sound card sampling rate + scanners are generally focused on receiving audio and not digital transmission, it&#039;s not acars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I would like to get a well coded Mac or Linux version of &#8216;Basestation&#8217; I do understand Kinetic and Airnav that they do not provide such software. The reason is very simple.. it&#8217;s all about the money and no apparent need for Mac or Linux version. Most of aviation enthusiasts use Windows anyway, so why bother? The only solution would be to use portable graphics libraries like Qt, SDL or OpenGL.</p>
<p>About the scanner thing, it&#8217;s not that simple and there is no way you could feed this data directly into the mic-in of your computer.  Just check the ModeS specification and your sound card sampling rate + scanners are generally focused on receiving audio and not digital transmission, it&#8217;s not acars.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Instead having to have work-arrounds – SBS-1 should be produced Mac compatible!

A couple of times they&#039;ve promised OSX software for the SBS-1, but never delivered.

According to their support downloads page, they&#039;ve release a firmware update that gets rid of the data transmission delay. Since I think the delay requirement was what caused them to encrypt the control mechanism in the first place, the removal a delay require removes the need for encryption?

So they could un-encrypt, publish the interface specs and the linux/OSX worldwide community could have the software written in about 7 days (and 7 lines of PERL code).

Or should we just all go out and buy scanners that receive 1090MHz, feed the audio into the Mac&#039;s mic port and write some software to decode from there? Makes the cost of the SBS-1 look a bit outrageous, doesn&#039;t it?

I&#039;ve had mine about 2 years now, sitting in the cupboard waiting for them to produce the long-promised OSX software. :^(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Instead having to have work-arrounds – SBS-1 should be produced Mac compatible!</p>
<p>A couple of times they&#8217;ve promised OSX software for the SBS-1, but never delivered.</p>
<p>According to their support downloads page, they&#8217;ve release a firmware update that gets rid of the data transmission delay. Since I think the delay requirement was what caused them to encrypt the control mechanism in the first place, the removal a delay require removes the need for encryption?</p>
<p>So they could un-encrypt, publish the interface specs and the linux/OSX worldwide community could have the software written in about 7 days (and 7 lines of PERL code).</p>
<p>Or should we just all go out and buy scanners that receive 1090MHz, feed the audio into the Mac&#8217;s mic port and write some software to decode from there? Makes the cost of the SBS-1 look a bit outrageous, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had mine about 2 years now, sitting in the cupboard waiting for them to produce the long-promised OSX software. :^(</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://piopawlu.net/2008/04/15/sbs1-under-linux-and-mac-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand. With soo many Mac users arround, especially pilots and air traffic controllers, there is a market out there! 

Instead having to have work-arrounds - SBS-1 should be produced Mac compatible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand. With soo many Mac users arround, especially pilots and air traffic controllers, there is a market out there! </p>
<p>Instead having to have work-arrounds &#8211; SBS-1 should be produced Mac compatible!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also wondering if there is yet anything for OS-X and radar box.

Is anyone still working on the project, or done???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also wondering if there is yet anything for OS-X and radar box.</p>
<p>Is anyone still working on the project, or done???</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://piopawlu.net/2008/04/15/sbs1-under-linux-and-mac-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion may now be dated, but there was some conversation about a reversing the AirNav RadarBox and it looks like Pio was working on an SBS1 application while others were working on something for the RadarBox. 

I have the RadarBox and was wondering if anyone had written anything for OS-X that I could play with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion may now be dated, but there was some conversation about a reversing the AirNav RadarBox and it looks like Pio was working on an SBS1 application while others were working on something for the RadarBox. </p>
<p>I have the RadarBox and was wondering if anyone had written anything for OS-X that I could play with?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://piopawlu.net/2008/04/15/sbs1-under-linux-and-mac-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your blog is interesting! 
 
Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your blog is interesting! </p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, a few corrections.  The bits actually line-up on 8 bit (byte) boundaries.

The first 5 bits are the downlink format (DF) code, but combined with the next 3 bits, make it a byte boundary.

DF11 (01011XXX) is different than DF4, and 5, in that the 24 bit ICAO address comes next, while in DF4, 5 it comes last.

On DF4, 5 the next data is a 5 bit data field, followed by a 6 bit data field, followed by a 13 bit data field. Again, this makes it run on a byte boundary.

Course, this example is encrypted, so we don&#039;t know whether it is a DF4,5, or 11 in there.  DF17, 20, and 21 are Long Messages (112 bits).

All this is available on the internet under the ICAO Annex 10 Volume IV publication.

I think Piotr probably has a handle on that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, a few corrections.  The bits actually line-up on 8 bit (byte) boundaries.</p>
<p>The first 5 bits are the downlink format (DF) code, but combined with the next 3 bits, make it a byte boundary.</p>
<p>DF11 (01011XXX) is different than DF4, and 5, in that the 24 bit ICAO address comes next, while in DF4, 5 it comes last.</p>
<p>On DF4, 5 the next data is a 5 bit data field, followed by a 6 bit data field, followed by a 13 bit data field. Again, this makes it run on a byte boundary.</p>
<p>Course, this example is encrypted, so we don&#8217;t know whether it is a DF4,5, or 11 in there.  DF17, 20, and 21 are Long Messages (112 bits).</p>
<p>All this is available on the internet under the ICAO Annex 10 Volume IV publication.</p>
<p>I think Piotr probably has a handle on that!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://piopawlu.net/2008/04/15/sbs1-under-linux-and-mac-os-x/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Max, it seems that you are right. It is a 56 bit message. Here is the hex of the aircraft:

4060CE

The message starts at byte number eight and the 56 bits looks like this:

01001010100110101101000000011000001100111001010110010011

The first 18 bits are the control section (transponder capabillities and stuff), the next 24 is the ICAO Hex and the last 14 bits are supposed to be parity bits (but they dont make sense to me in this message).

So sorry Max for jumping to conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Max, it seems that you are right. It is a 56 bit message. Here is the hex of the aircraft:</p>
<p>4060CE</p>
<p>The message starts at byte number eight and the 56 bits looks like this:</p>
<p>01001010100110101101000000011000001100111001010110010011</p>
<p>The first 18 bits are the control section (transponder capabillities and stuff), the next 24 is the ICAO Hex and the last 14 bits are supposed to be parity bits (but they dont make sense to me in this message).</p>
<p>So sorry Max for jumping to conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried several checksums and crc-16 algothms, and none come-up with that value in the example.  I even tried without the packet header, 07, and the counter bytes.  Wierd.  But I didn&#039;t try all the different starting values for the polynomial that is in the different standards.

That&#039;s what I like about standards--there&#039;s so many of them!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried several checksums and crc-16 algothms, and none come-up with that value in the example.  I even tried without the packet header, 07, and the counter bytes.  Wierd.  But I didn&#8217;t try all the different starting values for the polynomial that is in the different standards.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I like about standards&#8211;there&#8217;s so many of them!!</p>
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		<title>By: ggn</title>
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		<dc:creator>ggn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 08:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is someone have some informations about CRC computing on USB output (type of CRC ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is someone have some informations about CRC computing on USB output (type of CRC &#8230;)</p>
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